25 Jan 2011 @ 12:16 PM 

Here we go. It was not enough have to deal with completely unskilled recruiters. The new trend is letting Indians do recruiting. By Indians I don’t mean Native Americans, but Indians from India. I am sick of these Indian recruiters.

In my experience searching for a job, I had to deal with a plethora of so called recruiters. They are totally unskilled, they ask you for a resume and they disappear immediately thereafter. I call them keyword searchers. Yes they search for keywords on job boards and they find your resume. This is fine to sift through tons of resumes, but after that, you may think they start reading; think again, they are not able to read.

The new trend in this nightmare, is called Indian recruiters. Not really a scam, but close. They buy an American phone number (an easy task with VOIP), then they start bombing you with the most absurd jobs. I live in NC and they propose me crap such as a 3 month assignments in Oregon. Now, do they know a little about geography? Why a person not totally insane would move from NC to OR (probably more than 3,000 miles) for a shabby job?

Last call I received, I asked who eventually would pay for a face to face interview in Oregon. His answer was: the company will interview you only over the phone. Would you like to work for a company you never met one of their officials? Or your future boss? Are we insane here?

Besides their terrible accent (sometimes I don’t understand a word of what they are saying) why don’t they write me an email, so I can delete it immediately wasting only a second of  my time?

The proof they don’t read a resume, relies on what they search for. I give you an example; let say that your resume has, somewhere, that you have knowledge of Windows XP. A skill that probably 90% of people can claim (being an expert is another story). They will contact you for a position as Senior Windows Server administrator. Why? Because searching for keywords only, your resume pops up in their search.

Working in this way they waste time for the hiring company (assuming that the proposed job is not fake and I suspect 90% of those job does not exist), your own time and ultimately theirs (not that I care about them wasting their own time).

One of the best request I got was: “I saw your resume on xxxxxxx (a job board), would you be interested in this job? If yes, can you please send me your resume?” Now if they found my resume somewhere, why do they need my resume? It is like asking for my phone number during a phone call they placed to me. Pathetic, idiotic, stupid, moronic (I need a dictionary to find more appropriate adjectives).

One important thing. Never give out your resume to people less than serious. One big red flag is that they never tell you the name of the company they are recruiting for. What is that, secret services? You are not supposed to know the name of the company you will eventually work for? Talk of insanity. Second big red flag? Addresses and recruiting firm they put in their signature (when they write emails) are not existent or taken from a phone book, so are jobs they propose.

So, why do they need your resume? Something I can infer from my experience:

  • they collect resumes in order to reach their weekly quota. In a few discussion groups I had confirmation of my suspicion;
  • they are going to harass companies you worked for, in order to get some business; you better avoid that, if you want to use those companies as reference;
  • they might even try to steal your identity

I decided to publish on my blog some of their stupid requests, with name and all details provided by them. Emails don’t give them expectation of privacy, as my signature’s disclaimer says.

Recruiting is the new crooks’ frontier. Beware of recruiters, especially if from India!

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Last Edit: 29 Aug 2011 @ 08:22 AM

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  1. admin says:

    This post contains what I call Recruiters’ Wall of Shame. Indians are just the last straw on my nerves.

  2. russ says:

    i get calls by these robo indians all the time. As i am in IT i would want to be represented professionally and i cant take them seriously. I have never had a job opportunity offered represented by an indian. I may sound racist but if your english is less than fluent dont bother me. The Oregan thing is funny. Im in atlanta and have these offers in oregan, idaho, new mexico, or some other city i have no business going to.
    Its gotten to the point i just tell them im employed already, go away.

  3. admin says:

    Exactly my point Russ. Not that regular recruiters are much better, but at least they don’t pester you. I am not racist and I cannot afford to be. I am Italian (now also American) and suffered discrimination due to my national origin, but boy Indians don’t take no for an answer!

  4. Jake says:

    Hello,
    Thanks for the great article.

    In my recent desperate job hunt for a breakthrough as an entry-level Oracle DBA, I have been contacted by an Indian recruiter from a company called Cyberthink Inc. They offered me a training in Oracle DBA, interview preparation, resume writing and resume marketing in exchange of a $500 deposit. The training is set to be with one of their instructors using Skype! I am actually undecided and not sure if this is the best thing to do.

    Any ideas/tips would be appreciated.

  5. admin says:

    Jake, I don’t know what to think. Did you do your homework before shelling $500 out of your pocket? In this market many are after people in desperate need of a job and sometimes they get scammed. Obviously if they offer a service that cannot be free of charge. Also since you say “deposit” I think you are into that thing for some more money. Serious recruiters don’t ask for money, they provide a job. Good luck to you!

  6. Jake says:

    Admin,

    Thank you for your quick reply. Actually, I have read many blogs and websites about similar recruiters, and it seems that they do some sort of mocking resumes, in other words they inflate the candidate’s resume with unreal experience! That and the deposit thing make me really uneasy regarding such companies. I will be thankful if you could provide me with names of top recruiting/staffing firms in the IT field (preferably in the Oracle DBA field)!

    Thanks,
    Jake

  7. admin says:

    I never found a recruiter that was a real professional, sorry, but I cannot help you here.

  8. ssybesma says:

    You know, I think you are onto something. The biggest point in your dialogue is that these are offshore recruiters (it happens to be that all of them I’ve ever run into have been from India so far — I cannot remember any Brazilians, or Russians or Chinese asking me for a resume and not having a firm job to offer).

    Anyway, I’m a little worried that maybe I should just straightaway hang up on these people when I hear them. I usually tell them off some way or another (like, “I’m not interested” or “I need three pieces of info — company name, location and pay rate — before I can send a resume to you”), but like you said, they could be totally faking the job anyway.

    Makes me never want to talk to these people again. They do come off as extremely unprofessional and even shall I say, ‘stupid’. (Had one try to sell me a $15.00 per hour job, told him I am used to $22.00 and then he very annoying tells me that overtime is $22.50 per hour.) But I cannot just say that 100% are doing that. It seems like there could be some based in the U.S. that are legitimate.

    Just that 95% of them aren’t and most of my other calls from jobs come from people who are convincingly based here. Perhaps I can do without the 5% of them that might be legitimate.

    I don’t think you have to be a sucker or sign a suicide pact to be politically-correct. Sometimes, you just have to do what’s in your own best interest regardless of what anyone else might think about it. The reality you speak of is absolutely out there. I get several calls a day from these Indian recruiters, sometimes even more than that and for the same exact job!!!

    Thanks for being brave and telling the truth. I know what you mean and how you mean it. It is really happening to the degree you say and is every bit as annoying and more.

  9. ssybesma says:

    The part about why they ask for my resume when they claim to have seen it is grossly suspicious. You made me realize how dumb that was. What is the purpose of me sending them something they already claim to have seen?

    I think the news networks need to start investigating this stuff, because I’ve never heard any story done on this yet.

    Something massive is going on since this is happening to 10,000s of people every day, and that might be a low count.

  10. ssybesma says:

    Another thing I wanted to add…I was working with one of these Indian recruiters the past few days on what I mistakenly thought was the first good opportunity these guys every called me about. It turned out that this wasn’t what I thought it was. I thought it was a W-2 or contract-to-hire and it turned out to be contract only, which was at a lower rate than my last W-2 job and definitely much lower than anything I would accept for contract only.

    So, I still have an unbroken string of junk job calls from them and once I confirm this certainty tomorrow, I will likely never even allow these people to speak two words to me on the phone ever again without flatly hanging up.

    After all, how many of these H1-Bs can there be in the general population?

    1/2 of 1% ?

    Who the hell cares! All they have is crap.

  11. ssybesma says:

    If I was smart, I would start recording some of the calls I get while jibbing them a bit for their silly ways. Maybe put them up on Youtube.

  12. ac1956admin says:

    Another problem with these Indians is that they do not take NO as an answer. They are really pesky. I was forced to take off my phone number (and family name) from job boards; I discovered that a few of them proposed me as candidate WITHOUT my knowledge, which is illegal at best.

    I don’t know why they MUST call “candidates”. First of all you cannot even understand them, secondly they are worse than used car dealers. Most of Indian recruiters pretend to be located in the US (sometimes they even fake names and phone numbers in order to give themselves a credibility), but if you take a look at their emails, you can see that the IP address is usually from India.

    One last thing. Hiring somebody on a 1099 is usually illegal and for sure will lead you into troubles with the IRS. If you work in their offices, using their equipment, following their orders and having to respect a working time, YOU are a W2 not a 1099. They do this in order to fool laws and to avoid paying unemployment insurance and social security. I ALWAYS report them to the IRS; there is a form you can download from the IRS website. It’s the form 3949 A and you can report them anonymously.

  13. Brian says:

    Wow, great article! I get dozens of calls and emails a day requesting the same stupid thing! What I like to do is take their reply emails and sign them up for all kinds of spam!

  14. ac1956admin says:

    Brian that solution might be illegal; I am not a lawyer so don’t take this as legal advice. What I do with these idiots, is forwarding them back all their emails. It’s automatic (if you know how to forward emails from your server) and effective. They get back the same crap they try to send you.

  15. Keith says:

    Thanks a lot for posting this. I had no idea working on a 1099 was illegal. I’ve resorted to leaving my ringer off and screening my calls so as to have some peace from these idiots.

    I had 3 of them call me this morning, one of them 3 times for the same job, that had been posted by an employer on dice this morning. One of them had even reposted the job shortly after the employer did. Talk about bold.

    I got a an e-mail from one of them a little bit ago stating that their direct client, The State of Texas (WTF?), had an “urgent need” (another red flag) blah, blah, blah. Are you kidding me? The State of Texas is “your” direct client? You’ve really got to be one heck of a recruiter to land “them” as a client. Let me respond right a way!

  16. admin says:

    Yes you got it. Recruiters are usually liars, but Indians are even worse. They are transforming the recruiting process in a joke. Working on a 1099 is illegal as long as it is a way to circumvent Social Security dues. A real contractor HAS to be on a 1099, but not an employee. The problem is that when the IRS discovers the trick, the employee is liable as well. I personally reported a couple of violations to the IRS. If we accept every piece of crap they throw at us, we deserve it. Fight back these crooks!

  17. nyc says:

    A good recruiter is supposed to be a broker between candidates and companies. They have to network with and effectively communicate with both to be successful. I just don’t understand how these offshore recruiters even operate? Is it all about being a middleman and making a buck or two off your hourly rate? Working with an offshore recruiter is probably the worse thing you can do since it’s guaranteed they do not directly communicate with the company, they likely have to go through other parties. Most likely they are just looking to collect a finders fee. So if a recruiter is not able to communicate with you effectively, you can be sure he won’t be able to communicate with the company or sell you there. Just avoid this scum. On the other hand, a good recruiter can help you, since it’s in their interest to close the deal. Submitting a resume to a company’s website is like sending it to a black hole. A good recruiter sells you (and other candidates) to the company and tries to close the deal.

    I once got twelve calls from different offshore recruiters in the span of 15 minutes for the same exact 6 month crappy contract job. They must’ve all gotten an e-mail blast from the company and then proceeded to call candidates. I took a few of their calls and said I was interested to all of them. It was funny how they got mad because they thought they were the “exclusive” vendor. I just let the calls from these guys go to a voice mail, pretty easy to screen them. I guess there’s always a fresh group of unemployed people these scum can prey on.

  18. admin says:

    The problem is that many American recruiters are not any better. I call them keyword searcher. They make lists of possible candidates searching for keywords and blasting out emails, without even reading the resume. You got it right saying “A good recruiter is supposed to be a broker between candidates and companies”; the problem is that I still have to see one REAL recruiter. They are all jokes.

  19. DerekV says:

    I find that the Indians I have dealt with are constantly asking me to confirm every thing.
    Him: Are you a PM?
    Me: Yes I am a PM,
    Him: Can you confirm that you are a PM?
    Me: Yes.
    Him: When are you available?
    Me: I’m available next week,
    Him: You’re available next week ?
    Me: Yes.
    Him: Can you confirm that you will be available next week? etc.

    Is this a cultural thing?

  20. admin says:

    I believe it is (a cultural thing). Also don’t forget that these recruiters are not only completely unskilled, but as many recruiters they tend to lie. Nowadays recruiters are more like used cars sales people. I am sure there are exceptions, but they are not so common. They must meet quotas (probably as number of resumes they collect) and I don’t know why, Indians do everything they can in order to get you on the phone, which is a big turnoff since they don’t speak an intelligible English. I do not publish anymore, phone numbers, address, not eevn my family name.

    I suggest also to Google their job descriptions; you will find that in most cases those positions are many months old, so those jobs are not available (if they ever did) anymore. If the job is surprisingly available, would you work for a company that sent out an email blast to those jokeys and can’t care a bit about your real skills? Heck I don’t even send out my resume anymore. I have it on a webpage on my webserver; if they like it, fine. If they want a printed resume they can forget it. I want to talk to the company first, THEN I can provide a PDF resume (never a DOC, too easy to edit).

  21. UncaAlby says:

    I agree, this whole Indian Recruiter (a term I use loosely) has gotten entirely out of hand. Which is why I started researching it, to see if there’s any solution. I found your blog, so now at least I know I’m not alone.

    Here’s my take:

    1. They want a Word copy of your resume so they can modify it. Sometimes they’ll ask permission, but usually they don’t. Like if there’s anything on it that identifies you, they’ll strip it off so the client can’t contact you directly. Sometimes they’ll even change the content, with or without asking.

    2. They’re never ever going to improve their English, because in India, that IS good English! I’m starting to think that many of them hear my educated Midwestern/California accent, then think I’m stupid, because I don’t speak like their professors!

    3. They ask you to confirm everything because they can’t understand you any better than you can understand them.

    4. I used to think many American recruiting companies have outsourced their cold-calling. So if you answer all their questions correctly (assuming you can understand them), your next call should be from an American.

    Nowadays, if I answer all their questions correctly, my next call is from another Indian, but at least one who is moderately easier to understand.

    5. Indians are taking over Technology. Get used to it.

    The last recruiter I spoke with was recruiting for a company that, altho it’s listed on the NYSE, seems to be headquartered in India.

    Say what?

    That’s right. Indians are cold-calling for Indian recruiting companies that are recruiting for Indian companies. How do you get that job? Sound like an Indian.

    Remember, they’ll think you’re intelligent if you have an accent like one of their professors! If you sound American at all, they probably think you’re stupid.

    Got a job? Keep it! Kiss the boss’ hiney if that’s what it takes. Looking for a job? There’s no shame selling real estate.

  22. UncaAlby says:

    @ssybesma, if you ever do start recording your calls and publishing them on YouTube, please send us a link!! 🙂

  23. Mario says:

    I’m a web developer, I get calls from Indian companies around 6-10 times a day and about the same amount of emails some times more. I totally agree with you, most of the time their offers are just plain stupid like those 3 months contracts in the other coast without relocation covered. I figured their game a while ago, they have a quota so they need to get your resume and/or your ok submitted via email. They are secretaries or assistants but not recruiters. They get paid by the hour to make contacts for the real recruiters to be submitted to their clients because they promise them to get them 50 to 100 candidates to choose from for a position for very cheap rates. They actually started to impersonate americans, like for example I received an email two hours ago from a Bryan D. Humphrey and I know it was an Indian. How do I know? Well, he is saying in the message that I should reply to his “email ID” and starts by saying “greetings for the day” which are the most indian thing to say. The funny thing is that when I said that I was interested in the position I got an email from another guy and he was US based but never I’d got to talk to the other guy ever.

    But don’t take me wrong, due to my varied skills I get a lot of job offers thanx to those calls but to get that one call you have to go through 30 crappy ones that are looking to fill their quota only. <br /
    So to be able to filter the crappy ones my recommendation for everyone is the following:
    – Take the calls, do not send them your resume and if they say you have to send it because is on a PDF format or another format and they need it in Word format just say “Sorry, I don’t have Word on my computer” or “You can use the one you found because is my latest one”.
    – Demand to keep communications via email at the beginning so that you don’t have to waste so much time. One single guy can call you as much as 4 times an hour some times.
    – Ask them for a crazy rate. Let’s say you actually want 100k just ask them for 130k or something considerably higher than the market average; if they are actual recruiters they will try to negotiate with you but if all they want is your resume to fulfill their quota they will say “ok, I will submit you at that rate” that way you’ll know if it’s a waste of time since you don’t want your resume to be in a fish tank with other 100 resumes.

    I hope this helps someone 😉

  24. admin says:

    I agree with Mario on everything. I don’t waste any of my time with those clowns; this is why I don’t publish my phone number, nor address. They cannot do a thing with my resume found on some job boards and especially they cannot call me, which is irritating at best. True, they use American names trying to gain your attention and some VOIP phone number, so they appear to be in the US, BUT:

    1. Their IP address is from India
    2. Their English is so screwed up that nobody can fall for them

    Good luck to everybody

  25. UncaAlby says:

    Gotta say, the American recruiters aren’t much better.

    Just got off the phone with one.

    R: “So, are you familiar with databases?”
    Me: “Yes, I’ve worked with Oracle, Sybase, and MySQL”
    R: “OK great, do you know MySQL?”
    Me: ” . . . uh . . . yes”

  26. admin says:

    I agree, as I already said elsewhere, Indians are just worse and more pathetic. This “recruiter” was not even listening to you. Discouraging and disgraceful.

  27. Lisa Woloszyn says:

    I am super annoyed with these Indian recruiters too !
    I have been really upset that they send me an email that sounds like a job I’d really like and use an American name. Then it turns out the guy is an Indian. I said to one recruiter it isn’t ethical to try to trick us by using a different name. I have checked IP addresses on some of my emails and all the ones I’ve checked have been in the U.S. Can they do something with that to make it appear that they are when they are not? I wish they would all go away ! ! ! ! I am not sending them my resume anymore and using one of the previous readers idea to just tell them to use the resume they got off the job board. You are perfectly right, why should they ask for a resume if it’s already on there. BUT American recruiters do that too. And it has always been common practice for American recruiters not to give out the information of the company. I’ve worked with recruiters 20+ years. That is how they did it before. They tell you the company once you say you are interested after learning the pay and location. At least that has been my experience.

  28. Lisa Woloszyn says:

    UGH I just saw this : A website for “Indian Recruiters”, barf.
    Their spelling is awful.

    “http://www.recruitingblogs.com/group/indianrecruiters?groupUrl=indianrecruiters&id=502551%3AGroup%3A10398&page=1#comments”

  29. JT says:

    The Indian recruiters field all the technical jobs that can be worked remotely and give them to their people in India first. It’s horrible all those jobs that should be going to Americans are being intercepted by Indians and sent overseas.

  30. admin says:

    Jobs they usually propose are NOT for remote workers.

  31. Justin says:

    Yes!! This finally confirms my suspicions. I always thought it was strange that there were so many Indian recruiters out there with horrible English speaking skills.

    Their emails are so easy to spot! For example, here’s a recent one:
    HI,
    Hope you would be fine!
    Are you available for below opportunity?
    Please share resume with best hourly rate….

    Another give away is mousing over some of the links in their messages and seeing a different URL; the name in the From: field not matching the one in their signature; 3-12 month positions half way across the country; and job descriptions that don’t even match your resume. It’s obvious they just did a keyword search.

    I’m getting a lot of such emails purportedly from Microsoft and Boeing recently.

  32. admin says:

    Their stupidity is appalling!

  33. John says:

    I agree with you guys. We need to pass a law to stop these Asian-Indian recruiters using cheap VOIP to bug us. I have reasons to believe a few of them belong to Identity Theft rings. My grandfather came from India. So, I have an Indian name. According to the FBI, identity theft activities within small immigrant communities are 10 times higher. These Asian-Indian a**hole recruiters call me whenever I update my resume. They demand that I give out my social security number and DOB just to apply for any position. After denying for the first 100 times, I started experimenting with these a**holes and started giving out fake information. A few weeks later, I did a search on the Internet. Those fake identities show up on 20 different sites trying to sell identity related information. There must be a federal law to stop this Asian identity thief recruiters.

  34. admin says:

    Unfortunately a federal law would not stop these crooks; they do not reside in the US so it would be extremely difficult going after them. We are the first level of defense.

  35. Lisa Woloszyn says:

    You can go after them. There is a site you can look up the ip address where their email is originating from. Use this site to find that.
    http://www.ip2location.com/free.asp

    How to track the origin of an email through it’s IP address: http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/how-to-track-the-original-location-of-an-email-via-its-ip-address/

    And then you can report it to this site Internet Crime Complaint site if they start asking you for personal id information: http://www.ic3.gov/faq/default.aspx#item1

    They may or may not look into it, but if enough people would do this may the FBI would follow through.

  36. Lisa Woloszyn says:

    Today another Indian recruiter called me, (so what else is new). This recruiter asked me for my date of birth.
    And then she said she needed the last three digits from one of my personal id’s like a driver’s license or passport ! I told her I was not giving it to her. She said she needed it to create some kind of portal to put my resume directly for where the job was at EBAY ! ! ! What a bunch of baloney. I am tempted to put a notice on my resumes on the job boards: NO CALLS FROM INDIAN RECRUITERS.

  37. admin says:

    As a matter of fact I have on job portals, instead of my address, the following note: NO INDIAN RECRUITERS. Do you think they stop bugging me? No way! Bunch of crooks.

  38. Jeff says:

    True story, happened to me about 5 years ago:

    An Indian recruiter, a young-sounding guy, called me and said he had a job that I might be interested in, and asked me to send him my resume.

    I responded by asking why he needed my resume, stating that if he got my contact information (which would have been from a job board, probably Dice or Monster), he must also have a copy of my resume. I told him to send me the job description, and if I were interested, then we’d talk further.

    A little while later, I got the job description from him, and started reading it. My initial thought, 20 seconds in, was, “Wow, this job is right down my alley.”

    A few seconds after that, it hit me — I started re-reading the description, and the particular verbiage used for the desired skills and experience, and realized that the job description *sounded* like it came right out of my resume because it DID! This guy had lifted text straight out of my online resume to build a fake job description so that I would send him another copy of my resume (in pretty Word format, I guess).

    Well, I called him up on the phone, and called him out on his B.S. He sheepishly denied doing it, and I told him I wanted to talk to his supervisor. A moment later, his supervisor (a woman, also Indian) got on the phone and immediately started denying that the “recruiter” had done what he had done, but I was having none of it. I told them they were full of crap and to never call me again.

    Afterwards, I did an analytical comparison between the job description and my resume (I’ve still got the marked-up copy here in a folder).

    First, the supposed job location was, of course, my city. I won’t say where my city is, but it’s a secondary market as far as tech jobs go, with the main tech hub being 60 miles away. In other words, while I’m in demand enough that I can regularly find local contracts, there aren’t a whole lot of local contracts in the aggregate. Second, the contract length was “Long term.” Uh huh. And the pay rate was “DOE,” which is a complete nothingburger of information even on legit job postings.

    So here are the statistics on the job description:
    – The description had 58 words total.
    – 43 of those words were verbatim from my resume.
    – 11 words were paraphrased from my resume.
    – 4 words were original.

    I don’t know if it would violate the rules for your blog comments, so for now I’ll avoid saying which company tried to pull this scam on me, but most anyone who searches the major job boards for opportunities would know the name.

    If naming names is okay, say the word, and I’ll serve it up.

  39. admin says:

    Why am I not surprised even a bit? These are real scams. I knew that they used to propose 8 month old jobs, but the job description plagiarized from your resume is new to me. I prefer not to publish names, unless I have in my hands court valid documents to support claims; these crooks are completely capable of suing people for slander, when at the very least they are committing a fraud. Fight back folks and never send your resume! If you really need to send out your resume, at least provide a PDF and not a DOC file.

  40. Kathy says:

    Thanks for this post! Just yesterday I updated my profile on resume. I’ve already had 4 or 5 calls from India (with faked U.S. #’s) to get suspicious. Luckily, I became suspicious right away and googled it to find this site and didn’t send my resume to anyone. I’ve taken my phone # off the job board, which is such a shame, because now legitimate recruiters can’t call me. Should I take my phone # off the resume listed on Monster as well?

  41. Kathy says:

    Meant so say updated my profile on Monster in that last post.

  42. admin says:

    I removed my phone numbers, physical address and even my family name. These job boards are now used mostly by Indians. If another recruiter wants to contact you, an email is enough; also you can screen for unrelated requests, not just those pesky Indians.

  43. Pam says:

    Another thing I’ve noticed is that if you indicate any interest at all, they’ll ask you something along the lines of, “I need to know whether you have any other job applications, offers, or interviews scheduled.” I’m so tempted to say, “No, I’ve been sitting idly by the phone for weeks, just hoping *you* would call.” Anyway, I always tell them I don’t have time to talk right now and to please send me an e-mail with information about the job. Easy to filter it from there. They usually don’t call back, thank goodness.

  44. Mark says:

    Jake, working on a 1099 is not illegal if you do it correctly. I report my 1099’s on my tax return every year. My company has a federal ID and I have a legitmate business which is licensed and insured. I would rather work on a 1099 because I don’t have to pay taxes on the costs of doing business. ie: travel, lodging, internet, cell phone, etc.
    Great article. It has helped convence me of what I thought was happening.
    I’m going to be a rude, threatening SOB from now on!

  45. admin says:

    Working on a 1099 is illegal if what you do can be constructed as the equivalent of an employee/employer relationship. The IRS has a test to verify this, and many contractors, especially in the IT field are risking big time. Confirmed by a friend of mine who is an IRS field agent

  46. This is my response to these creepy people and yes – if you send your well-written resume in MS Word don’t be surprised that you never hear from them again and also, that document will have your name removed and replaced with Sanjeev’s name.

    So this is my new e-mail response to them:

    =======================================

    NAMASTE!!!!

    I do not trust Indian Recruiters. Whenever I send Indian Recruiters my resume in MS Word format, I never hear back from them.

    Thank you for your efforts.

    https://blog.computer-fella.com/job-advise/indian-recruiters/

  47. admin says:

    I can’t agree with you more, William!

  48. One Indian Recruiter responded to my reply yesterday:

    (He was fascinated with your blog, Admin)
    ———————————————————————-

    Subject: RE: Opportunity: Systems Administrator Security, Abbott Park, IL

    Thanks for the prompt reply, I appreciate it.

    Also would like to thank you for the efforts you made to create this amazing blog

    Have a nice day!!!

    Thanks & Regards,
    Ranjan Panda

    US Tech Solutions, Inc.

    ————————————————————————–

    My reply back to him:

    Ranjan,

    You’re welcome. Thanks for being so amazing yourself.

    http://billslater.com/indianrecruiters

    Best regards,

    William Favre Slater, III

  49. admin says:

    I believe he did not even look at my blog and I tell you why. Not only recruiters, especially Indians, are not able to read, BUT I configured my blog (and most of my websites) in a way that Indians (and a few more countries known for scamming) are NOT granted access!!!! In fact, when some Indian recruiters seem to be American (name, proper English, the job seems to be legitimate, etc.) they obviously ask for my resume and I send them to my resume page on one of my websites and guess what? They get a FORBIDDEN MESSAGE, because they are trying to access from India.

    I hate recruiters in general, but Indians are first in my special list. By the way thanks for your words William. You are doing a heck of a job as well with your website.

  50. The latest…

    =================================
    Namaste Dear Sir,

    This is for our direct client and I will give you feedback either way.

    If you are interested please send me your updated resume and it is an immediate requirement

    Thanks & Best Regards
    Subbu |Sr. IT Recruiter|

    = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

    No, Subbu.

    You are an Indian Recruiter. I know exactly what is going on because it has happened to me now over 200 times. This is your game:

    You are all devious con-artists and you all speak broken, substandard English. You collect well-written MS Word format versions of resumes from white American IT professions and you cleverly remove our names from the top of the document and you place Sanjeev’s name on there. He gets the job and we remain unemployed.

    You got millions of our jobs outsourced to India, and now you want to take the remaining open jobs here in the U.S. and fill them with Indian H1-B candidates. In the meantime, there are 35 million Americans without jobs, who desperately want and need jobs. We are hurting greatly financially.

    Find another unsuspecting ***** to pull your tricks on. We know what you are doing with American resumes and the word is getting around because we are on to your game. We have you figured it out – because you are an Indian Recruiter

    You are all horrible, disgusting monsters. Go to ****.

    http://206.126.230.92/indianrecruiters

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